Tesco Still Don't Like Disabled People?
hi just felt i had to put my case on this site, i'm disabled i have cerabal palsey which has left me with muscle spasms in my back weak muscles in my legs and mobility problems. i started working for tesco in 1994 as checkout worker with the help of remply,ive had various time off with my back spasms and being unwell and have suffered the consequenses of the disapliarey process on a number of occasions ,in the last year i have had two stomach infections (one day each time ) then in july had to be rushed to hospital with burst appendix had 6 weeks off recovering,this was delt with under sya with just a welcome back and put down to mitigating so that was fine,last month had three days off with flu went back for one shift then pulled muscle in back worked another shift in pain then back got worse went docs got sick notes had four weeks off in total.now i thought my back compaint was always covered by the DDA (disability rights) had an ari meeting last night got told it wasnt covered ,although every other time was and because i had had two verble warnings in this year although expired my warning this time was excellerated straight to a first writen warning .i protested my case with them but they wernt intrested they read warning out asked me to sign it i refused then my blood boiled over and i walked out and came home.i feel victimised bullied and totaly frustrated their system stinks.
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Your clearly of ill health and seem to take a lot of time off.
If you run a business you need your staff to be able to come to work. If they can't do this then they're not suitable for the job.
It might not seem fair but as a business staff sickness costs a lot of money in lost sales. They need to protect those sales.
You're not fit for the job! Your health is a concern and your constant sickness is causing problems at the store. There is only so much any business can take.
oh yes i could really prevent my appendix bursting coulnt i, dont think so.
I completely understand where you're coming from, I work in the call centre for tesco, took a day off a while back as had a sore throat and obviously didn't want to make it worse by being on the phone all day so called in sick. Had my welcome back to work meeting the next day where i was told this would remain on my record for 8 weeks, if i took another day off this would increase to 13, and then again to 26 until i completed that time without a day off to clear my record, unless i was off again in which case i would be fired. Also felt i was being blamed for the high rate of absence in my team lately, not my fault at all but did feel as if was being held personally responsible. Really unfair, after all you can't help it if you're ill, can you? No wonder the call centre has a high staff turnover.
How dare some of these people leave comments like this. Fair enough, this person may have had a lot of time off, but as long as Tesco don't have to pay for every single day the person was ill, then I don't see the problem?
I for one am very happy that this person is willing to get up and go to work, even with their health troubles. It would be all too easy for them to sit as home claiming Britain's generous benefits.
The amount of illegitimate dole scroungers and wasters out there, at least this person works!
You should all be ashamed of yourselves!
thanks mickey for your comments,shame tesco dont see it that way ,i know people at work who have had cracked ribs,slipped discs in their backs,all sorts of illness but they still go to work just to avoid this humiliating disaplinary process it sucks.i tried to see my p.m to talk to her about my disaplinary meeting, not intrested got fobbed off with appeal form
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How dare some of these people leave comments like this. Fair enough, this person may have had a lot of time off, but as long as Tesco don't have to pay for every single day the person was ill, then I don't see the problem?
I for one am very happy that this person is willing to get up and go to work, even with their health troubles. It would be all too easy for them to sit as home claiming Britain's generous benefits.
The amount of illegitimate dole scroungers and wasters out there, at least this person works!
You should all be ashamed of yourselves!"
There is something you've completely missed.
What if you have to rely on this person?
You've never run your own business have you?
An employee is part of a business, you can't employ someone who you've no idea how often they'll come in.
Try running your own business with people who you can't rely on and then see if you think the same thing.
I can't people like you are so small minded you didn't concider this point and just jumped on the defence of the op without thinking or having any business experience!
Yes I agree this would matter in a small business where the person is relied on; but in a business so large as tesco the person would not be missed in the short term...Do you work? I hope so because im sick of all these people scrounging off benefits when there is nothing wrong with them.
People with serious disabilities like this should be given medals, not disciplinaries.
So with respect are you saying that it would be OK for a small business to have a disciplinary procedure for those off sick, but not a multi-billion pound corporation because they "would not miss" their staff as much?
it's about time there was a tv documentary made about tesco's attitude to its workers. losing customers through such negative publicity is the only thing that would make Tesco sit up and listen. They are a Dickensian company, pushing their employees to work harder, faster, longer, with Terry Leahy and his Board laughing all the way to the bank. In 2005 there was a report that Tesco were recruiting Polish workers because they couldn't find enough English workers. At that time a Pauline Foulkes of USDAW said they had told Tesco they should recruit from Poland only as an absolutely last resort. Look now on the USDAW websites to see that Tesco's partner in crime are urging members to sign an early day motion tabled by Helen Jones MP to get their MP to support their campaign for English for Speakers o Other Languages in order to get the Polish workers speaking good English! USDAW have lots of webpages about how happy the Polish are that Tesco are recruiting in Poland, bringing the workers over, then USDAW helps them to learn English and become USDAW Reps. If you have a problem at work forget about USDAW helping you. They assist Tesco, not their members. Tesco have complete domination over everyone they want to help the Directors and shareholders make outrageous sums of money at the expense of the downtrodden workers. That's where the root cause of worker's discontent lies.
If Remploy found you the job with Tesco then you should contact them. Your condition is covered by the DDA and Tesco are in breach of that law by denying you your Rights. Health and Safety law protects you from working with a bad back. You can take your case to an Employment Tribunal. If I were you I would take advice from the CAB or a Law Centre. Tesco are breaking a number of laws here and you don't have to take it. Good Luck.
Mickey I am still awaiting your reply.
How can you be "disciplined" for being ill? It must be unlawful. Same as the first 3 days off sick. Tesco are making their own laws. Show me another company that doesn't pay for the first 3 days of sickness. They need reporting to the Health and Safety Executive for forcing people to go into work when they are ill and unfit for work.
Listen here rich this is not turning into an argument, I am merely stating that remploy target employers such as Tesco etc as they have a large workforce and could cope with a bit of absence.
Now get some respect please
I have been totally respectful! I asked a question and I expect an answer! If you want to dodge it that's up to you.
Morrisons also do not pay for the first 3 days of absence, thus forcing ill people to go into work.
rich you are turning this into a personal dig i suggest if this is the course of action you wish to take then you should give me your MSN contact address as the good people of this blog dont want to see us squabbling like a pair of kids.
further update from original blogger ive now been punished for walking out of gisaplinary meeting had another disaplinary with upper management and it resulted in me receiving a final written warning .tried to plead my case for walking out was not intrested at all their system sucks
That's terrible! Obviously you were frustrated with the system(which I agree sucks completely)but I think it's shocking that they don't appreciate your efforts to come in even if you have these problems. Thankfully I've worked off the 8 weeks since I had my sore throat (see above post) but was full of the cold a few weeks ago and didn't feel like working at all, but didn't want another 8 weeks on my record so I was sat there sounding all stuffed up on the phone to customers! Had another sore throat about 3 weeks before the cold but was thankfully able to do manual clubcard so didn't have to go on the phone, just as well cos couldn't speak without it hurting. If i was you I'd seriously consider quitting tesco, the managers at your own store sound like they couldn't care less if you end up with a serious injury at work, and by the sounds of it you'd get fired if you did and they'd get off scot free. Really not on. Seriously, think about quitting.
Jen
believe me jenny nearly quit when i walked out but ive now decided to fight my case through the appeal process,got copies of notes and a booklet where it states that once a warning has expired it is disregarded for disaplinary purposes will keep you all posted on how it goes if it fails might tell em to stick the job where the sun dont shine p.s if anyone has a crystal ball can they tell me if im going to be ill in the next 26 weeks
probably loads of times given your current record.
went to appeal hearing and what a waste of time that was but did find out that when you get a warning,verbal or written although it only stays live for 8 weeks if you have any time off in next 26 weeks it goes towards your percentage,ive worked their for 3 1/2 years and no one has told me that before and speaking to others in store they didnt know either,so be warned.they have you by the short and curlys on everything.as long as you go to work ill or not and keep smiling thats the way they like it.life at tescos sucks .
hey i know what you are going through (3.5 years service) i myself have aspergers (form of autism) and suffer from recurring depression (covered by the dda)as i only work three days a week for having two days of a month my percentage was 2% (the say up to 3% is ok) so when i took three days off the fast tracked my through the system and sacked my due to ill health with no request for medical report, since then i have appealed and got my job back which showes there system is flawed also many of the legal prcedents for unfair dismissal and unfair working conditions have been set by tesco (look in any law guide) the other thing i have noticed is that if you have a visable disability that does not seem too severe tesco will gladly hire you which leaves those like myself or somebody with cerabl palsy out in the cold - while many people will say that we are saying look at poor little me, that is not the case i would like to remind everybody that if you are disabled, it is not by choice and we are limited in the work we can do so when a company like this acts in this manner, it can and has caused a great number of problams.
Hi disabled guy,
You have a strong case m8, and take it to the media,tesco do not like being humiliated indeed,and they have humiliated you buddy, you must be so frustrated and thats a shame, I wouldn't have a problem employing you bud,I would know from the start what to expect and if you are giving your 100% otherwise then i think your pretty amazing.
I have my own company and have done so for the past 11 years, 2 years ago i was diagnosed with diabetes and live with a lot of hypos and this affects my work a lot, but i find ways around it and the fact you are out working is provong you have determination,good for you m8,keep your chin up.
As for the idiots on here that are selfish and thoughtless because they dont have to live with an illness,
I remember when i used to go to the toilet and my father would bang on the door yelling,"what are you doing in there?" get out and give someone else a chance!"egg muffins
Hmm... I do think that what type of store you work in and who your people in charge are affects it greatly.
I know that my friends who worked in the Superstore in my town have had trouble taking time that they need off sick, or for study leave for exams - wheras I work for an Express on a housing estate.
There are several family groups in our store and because of that we all help each other out by swapping shifts or working overtime.
My manager has recently been off with carpel tunnel, and another employee (who has left us now) was off for a long time with stomach ulcers, while another collegue has just come back from maternity leave.
I know of someone in town who was told she would not be able to expect her old hours back after her maternity, and they advised her to hand her notice in.
I mean, Tesco as a company is pretty strict - but you really need to try and find someone else in the store who will sympathise and argue your case for you. Not everyone is evil and bitey lol!
you should have been covered by the DDA...any dabilitating illness that has been detrimental to your health for more than 52 weeks is covered.
The SYA policy is great on paper however it is never implemented properly, i hope you took a union rep in with you because they should have known all of that.
this is terribel why do you think that it is acceptable to be off work and expect no concequences to me you should not have aplied for a job in such a demanding environment as a supermarket with underlying health problems maybe a slower paced job is for you as with every sick day you have other employees have to work harder do you think that is fair get over yourself! tesco is better without you i hope they sacked you
to restate my illness was caused by family issues not underlaying causes and further more if you can read which i doubt you will notice the point about how they work out you absance percentace and how its diffrent for full time vs parttime - in addition to this i have since spoken to one of my manager who admitted off the recored that my situation and others like my have been handelled poorly due to lack of knowlage about diffrent disabilitys, tescos as a company has disability advisores however these people are not avalibe in every store, what i recomened for anyone with any disability is to provide litriture and sit down and explain what diffrent issuses or problems you have after all while my store manager was aware of my problems these had not been explained to my manager therefore she was unable to understand the problems i have, this is not to say that they were correct in there treatment of myself, but it does explain why this reached this stage
I work in a new Tesco in Aylsham and have done for 6 months. I believe all Tesco's are the same! They treat you like a number. They don't care if you have cerebal palsy, diabetes or even cancer! I have diabetes and have been off quite a lot recently with virus after virus which upsets the control of my diabetes and even with a doctors certificate I was still slammed with a disciplinary!! I also had a car accident a few months ago (flipping the car onto its roof) and they said this was mitigating. Load of bull if you ask me because they bring this up in every ARI! I am appealing against the discliplinary I have just been handed with a letter from my Doctor but I can't see that getting me anywhere because the store is run by a load of pre-teen monkeys! If anyone could help being ill, do you really think they would be?! NO! Some people on here seem to be saying that if you have a long term illness you shouldn't work! What a joke! I mean really! Shall we all just sit back and live off the money you earn then?? Because I'm sure you'd have about as much to say about that as well! Maybe you should get some respect for others! Or at least stop picking on people with disabilities and get back to your perfectly healthy little lives! Tesco are unfair and disrespectful and belive me this will not be the end, it's just the beginning!
ITS ABOUT TIME THE UNION CALLED A STRIKE! WHAT DO WE PAY OUR USDAW FOR ? TESCO ARE WALKING ALL OVER US! (AT THE BEVERLEY STORE) IM FRIGHTENED I WILL BE CARRIED OUT IN A COFFIN!
THEY WORK US SO DAMN HARD, AND THEY STILL INSIST WE ARE OVERSTAFFED!, THEY JUST KEEP CUTTING STAFF AND SPREADING US OUT MORE LEANLY AT THE BEVERLEY (2171) STORE.
I SUFFER FROM PANIC/ANXIETY ATTACKS, ALWAYS BEFORE I GO TO WORK, NEVER ON MY DAYS OFF!, IM SO SCARED WHAT`S HAPPENING TO ME.
HOWEVER I HAVE BILLS TO PAY LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, I CAN NOT AFFORD TO LEAVE AND IF I DID WHERE WOULD I GO? WITH THE RECCESION TESCO KNOWS THAT IT HAS ITS EMPLOYEES OVER A BARREL!, PUT UP/SHUT UP OR GO!
IT IS A HORRIBLE FEELING, IT IS A VICIOUS CIRCLE.
Ok here's the deal, i like everyone else who works for tesco feels taken advantage of, and i used to have panic attacks going to work, however i have found a soloution, it semes mad but we the Ga's run the stores yes the managers etc are in charge but i you know a way to improve profomace and effincany and decrese the workload do it (if its not too big a change) of its big speak to your teamleaders etc i have done this in my store (5132) i work on the front end and we got pleanty off hassle over the mess on our tills so we started making time to sort cases hangers returens etc, but rather than everyone doing it we worked out who could do what better/ more efficenty this has made it easier on all of us making our job better - the one thing i will say is that we had problems with our line manager but what we did not understand is that she was stuck between us and her bosses, whick ment she could not do what she needed so that is why we made the changes because helping her helped as now, she has more time to make the big changes
i will also say this this is good for the mid term in the short term i recomend 2 Kalms tablets before your shift 2 on your break and 1 after your shift these tablets are herbals so no risk of addiction and they ct as a mood leveler perfect to keep you going
thank you for reading
I think it is very bad for a company give u a welcome back(disciplinary as I live next to a Tesco employee). As u had a lot of time off work, I suggest u are not really fit for work and have a word with the Dr about being able body for work. I know another company that does exactly the same as my nephew and friend had problems there. I wont work in places like that cos If I know I had a disciplinary for stupid reasons like being ill or visiting the hospital like I do due to having a brain tumour. I would of lost my temper at the boss and wont be responsible for my action. I had nearly closed a company down due to unfair behaviour and walked out after given a disiciplinary then gave the boss a guilt trip by telling her my diagnoses of my seizures which was a brain tumour. For instant would they like us to go in with swine flu or any other flu and pass it over I am one of those who dont care who I make ill if I was made to come in to work weather I am ill or not. Also u all are not robot we are human if we are ill it should be acceptable unless u ring them and catch them out doing something else like what happened to 1 of my work collegue.
All of u shouldn't put up with this nonsence. As u can read I dont put up with any form of nonsence in a work place as I used to get a job 1st then walk out the offending company with notice of termination with immediate effect. I still work now regardless of my brain tumour never had a disciplinary apart from returning to my old job after being in hospital that was over something else I turned like gordon ramsey with another employee and got pushed.
My husband was recently dismissed from a Tesco DC after having an accident at work before Christmas. He was taken to A&E where they diagnosed a back trauma. He ended up with 5 weeks off work and unpaid. Prior to that, he was off with swine flu, as a result, he was put on stage one of the disciplinary process, he took 2 days of planned absence to look after the kids when I broke my shoulder, put on stage 2, accident at work caused stage 3 and out the door. The reason? They assumed he caused the accident just to get Christmas off. His back was already weak due to a previous accident a year ago, which was due to faulty equipment. He went through Occupational Health, was given promises of work adjustments and they done nothing! As for the union? They sat in the dismissal meeting and said nothing. My husband now gets no jobseekers allowance as he was dismissed and cannot get another job, because whenever they approach tesco, they are told he was dismissed for gross misconduct. Absolute farce!
I have a form of epilepsy that means that i not only suffer actual seizures but also complex partial seizures where i am consicous but not in control of what i am doing. i am confused and disoriented. i had one of these seizures in my tesco store (as i do not know when they are going to happen) one of the managers in the store that day noticed and she did not want me on the shop floor with the customers so she put me in the bakery slicing bread! using a machine. i wasnt in the right frame of mind to do this at all but they didnt care about that. i should have been sent home right away to avoid having a seizure where i would loose consciousness. upon returning to work i had a welcome back meeting where another manager said to me "hundreds of people in the world have epilepsy why is it that yours is so much worse than theirs". the managers dont have a clue!
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I like others on here have had time off. Had first Ar then verbal warning suffer from depression and anixity. Today I have a nasty dose of flu supposed to be in at 4am phoned in told to be in for 5ish. Clocked on 5.15am. Had an informal meeting with a manager re absence and arriving late. Done only once today as unwell. Wanted to go home asked another manager as couldn't focus on what supposed to be doing. She checked with duty manager said I could however off the record she said uf I could stick my last 1.5 hrs out it would be better as tesco would force a written warning onto me. Never known a company with such an uncaring attitude.
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